I love that. That’s what I consider the heart of a performer, someone who is in it for the right reasons. It’s like this passion, not like this, “I’m not too good for theater anymore.”
Oh my God. There is nothing like it. There is incredible content on YouTube, TikTok and Instagram. Content is art, art is content. Content is content. It is all my favorite thing. I love what Michaela Coel, who won the Emmy for “I May Destroy You,” … talked about [in her acceptance speech] about fitting in and success, and that these two things don’t necessarily need to meet. For me, success is about making. You can find it on my bulletin boards. I created the expression for myself, “Don’t wait, create.” Because when I was a young artist, my husband was a very, very, very successful white male. He would get 10 auditions while I would sit there waiting for one. When I was unable to get an agent, he got lots of work. And I had to teach myself, and it was deeply uncomfortable to go, “Okay. I have to make my own stuff to feel joyful as an artist.”
And I had to really get into the cells of my body that no art is better than any other art. Success is wonderful. I’m using my “Ted Lasso” mug because I love when art gets celebrated, especially art about kindness and art that is written by friends of mine, like Ashley Nicole Black [who writes for “Ted Lasso”]. It is a great way for artists to feel that their success is being recognized and praised. Because success is about making. In my view, success is simply doing. It’s the doing that brings me joy, and not the Emmys that helps me sleep at nights. Like, don’t get me wrong — it’s all awesome! That stuff is my favorite, and I would love to have more.
You spend more time on the set and creating than you do working. And that has to be, for me, why I do it — the joy of creating, no matter what. The budget for this movie was very modest and they are hoping to make it into Sundance. I would love that. It was a great experience because I was able to tell stories that I have never told. And that’s how I feel about “Dinette.” The joy is in the doing for me, the art of it, the play of it, of like, “Oh, I like you. I want to play with you. This is fun. I feel safe playing with you.” And we’re telling a story that I think needs to be told, where we’re talking about things I really want to put forth in the world to help heal us as a planet.
You have a soft, more relaxed dancing moment in one episode. All episodes end with a dance number to their theme song. Are you a dancer? That was a natural talent?
No! When she was a child, my mom was a New York City Ballet ballerina. Even though she gave up when she was 10 years old, there was still this… I think mothers and daughters are super complicated, as you can see from “Better Things” and “Orange Is the New Black”; any brilliant writer is always talking about mothers and daughters, right? … I can do it, but I didn’t want to be a dancer because I felt inferior. I was also fat and teased as a child, so I didn’t want to dance. However, behind closed doors I would dance out, just like people sing in the bathroom. I was always Martha Graham-like. Ballet, jazz and tap were not my passions. I love modern dance music. It could be any type of music.
Similar here. There is no choreography but I can sense a rhythm.
We took dance lessons together before we got married. Fred Astaire would be proud of that 5 pack for $9.99. And we got into the biggest fight, because he was just like, “Stop, stop moving your hips. I can’t concentrate.” So at least Drae [Campbell, who portrays Mick in “Dinette”] did not feel that way.